results of earlier experiments from corpos that were playing fast and loose with making stealthier units

wasnt ablet o get them to act like human brain, so more rat like but uhhhh more neurons from miutations or whatever so they still reasonably intelligent (or even osme as much as humans) and just talk odd or think about things in certain way

Wanted these tobe imperfect muants, if they are prewar this works out but means they wil have hundreds of years of history

maybe that is just the usual kind of shone from mainstream society and pushed underground, not much else to do down there and develop a more solid identity separated from humans, utopian pre vor society would likely be very focused on progress and the future and identity of rats developed as a rejction of that. hedonism as a read action to utopia wit only make sense if asceticsm was a thing, but it also kind of develops naturally from focusing hard on the here and now

hedonistic, mostly to stack paper?

I don't like the mostly to stock paper idea s much now. Rats should probably be hedonistic and very energtic slash fund for gameplay purposes, but have it as more of a means to an end. only problem then is fitting that in with the poison maker prophets

they can be superstiious and into mystical shit without needing a entire belief system behind it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-FKBmI5Wl0

melee and bows or summat prob, rats arent strong but make them crafty

if they don’t join gang, then JD is fucking TERRIFYING to them

they will hide, scout, spy, guerrilla, etc…

bear (elephant) traps

this may lead to frustrating encounters. to compensate, any time they manage to catch the skaven out in open (and barring escapes) they will FUCK shit up

if they join gang, JD compensates for weakness by being big and loud as fuck, clear incentive to want them in

make them HYPE as shit about it for power fantasy purposes, like you’ll see rats playing and one’s riding a buffrat like an elephant

would JD being focus of a lot of attention (necessarily, elephant needs to be worked around in a lot of things) create inter-party tension or jealousy AND IS THIS A GOOD THING???

if they fight a rival gang and they have an elephant fucking shit up, rival gang easily goes “ok lets get an elephant to counter-fuck their shit up”

but it’s less sapient than JD or something?

NUCLEAR POLICY REFERENCE???????

Bouvie (boo-vee-AY)

(fallout) 1920s gangster cosplayer

2 buffrat guards dressed up like straight goons

speaks with obnoxious mouse puns

“you wanna make some cheddar? NOW yer squeakin my language!”

“cheesed to meet ya!”

Undeep

NOTE: have some non-skaven members of underground society too

why would they join? what kind of person would shun mainstream society for these rat dudes?

they respect physical strength to an extent (they need to work around attacking foes that have it and they know its power)

buff skavens too that go against this? can be the guard for the higher up leader types that dont engage in direct combat much

if they have same ideology (beliefs) as other skavens might be harder to (get them to accept position as) guard?

we have experiment results as skaven already, buff were a mutation that muscle;ar but less iq or whatever but kept around by corp since still

useful if guided right way (holy fucking shit, was i really this incoherent when i wasnt eating enough?)

but also craftiness, underhanded tactics etc (probably within bounds, you need to trust factions somewhat)

POISONS

grow whatever herbs for poisons in underground getters

make this jank as shit (plastic bins, bulk dirt, scavenged grow light)

toilet water for grow (Budz House)

and of course they grow weed (puffherb)

SIDEQUEST: the weed they grow fucking sucks and the party needs to figure out how to make it dank

if Jeff uses his super smell on the weed, he gets a detailed readout (range for THC/CBD percentage and specific terps that shine through) that tells him it’s garbage

slang

puffherb (weed)

comedy option: poudy

gnashed (good)

comedy slang options

munted

fighting against them in random encounters etc…

  more frequent near their territory yes, but maybe more likely to surprise too? they'd presumably know the area pretty well

and have tunnels, ambush places, overlooks, etc around

give players a chance to get this knowledge of the territory if they observe (or even dont piss of gang and get it in advance)

stats maybe obvious (dodge, melee, some like dirty trick type things)

will act intelligently

if JD goes all out it might just be horrid? skaven like rats way smaller than elephant

but we can retcon biology a bit and have them poison him or some shit (it's less effective and doesnt outright kill without a shitload, but means a sort of run and kite works pretty well)